How To Upload To Synology Faster

Dexxer

Hey all,

This trouble drives me crazy!

Simply bought a DS1621+ on Raid five. Installed information technology at home on my router.
I have a 1Gbps internet cobweb connection at home.

I installed Synology Drive client on my domicile computer and my coworker'due south computer at his place also.
He also has a 1Gbps cobweb cyberspace connexion at his place.

Here's the very simple setup:

Nosotros're trying to sync video projects, since we're into video editing. The other day it took three DAYS to sync 600GB of files for a project.
Upload speed of ii to 3 Mb/southward. Insanely deadening. Information technology should take take four to half-dozen hours max, not three days...

I used the Drive client using Quickconnect and DDNS, both are irksome.
On my router I have ports 5000; 5001; 6690 and 80 forwarded and open.
The NAS is on its own dedicated IP, no DHCP.
Everything wired, no WiFi.

With dropbox using the same config, we apply to accept thirty to 60Mb/s transfer between dropbox and our computers and dropbox servers.
Now that I migrated all our data to the NAS, we're getting only ii to 3Mb/s using the aforementioned configuration.
...on a 1Gbps connection, this is quite frustrating non beingness able to use the bachelor bandwidth.

Between PC1 and the NAS I'm getting 80 to 120Mb/s. It's on the same router so that'due south okay.
But between the NAS and PC2... only 2Mb/s. On both DDNS or Quickconnect.

Did lots of test with my Isp, they swear the network works flawlessly at 1Gbps...

Any thought what is going on here? Is information technology Synology drive client app or network or config?

Thanks

WST16

Not certain what'due south going on, tin you double check that all connections to the router are showing chiliad Mbps/Full duplex.
On the DiskStation, go Control Panel > Network > Network Interface and cheque the LAN interfaces.

Are you syncing a lot of minor files or did you lot try one large sized file?

Dexxer

Yup all yard duplex

Its a mix of small and big actually, mostly big files. video files are from 5GB to 50GB each.

WST16

Let's see if someone else has any suggestions.

It could exist the number of files dumped in the binder. If I were you, I'd exam with a single big sized file (say 5-10 GB), just one to come across if it makes any divergence.

If all fails, the other options that I proceed coming beyond that yous might effort are Resilio (information technology uses the BitTorrent protocol, so you lot should make sure information technology'southward not blocked by your Internet access provider), and GoodSync. Both are not complimentary.

Seaprobe

Make sure you lot have the QuickConnect relay server turned off. It will bounciness the traffic through Synology'southward server. While helpful for getting around NAT, information technology will severely slow throughput.

Rusty

If the results are the same using QC and DDNS then it'due south not the relay that's the trouble IMHO. @Dexxer would y'all be open to a test using a unlike protocol? Maybe SFTP? Just for a examination to encounter if a different protocol will give different/amend results.

WST16

I was even thinking to examination it past logging in from the remote site to the DS FileStation and to download some large file. @Dexxer is maxim that information technology's about 2Mb/s which is totally unrealistic for a 1Gb cobweb.

Dexxer · 6. Dec 2020

Brand certain yous take the QuickConnect relay server turned off. Information technology will bounce the traffic through Synology'south server. While helpful for getting around NAT, it will severely tiresome throughput.

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Aye everything about Quickconnect is disabled. I then tried DDNS, that'S what Synology back up team suggested. And it did non solve the issue. This is mysterious. I'm wondering if the ISP has some kind of special QoS algorithm to stop habitation user from doing "pro/business" level piece of work from home...

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If the results are the same using QC and DDNS so it's not the relay that's the trouble IMHO. @Dexxer would you exist open to a test using a different protocol? Perchance SFTP? Just for a test to see if a different protocol will give dissimilar/better results.

I didn't cartel trying SFTP even so, seems a bit avant-garde.

So I cheque the SFTP box, port forward port 22 on the router.
Then use fillezilla or WinSCP to connect to my NAS via external IP address from PC2 at my friend's place.

And and so try to drag and driblet a 10GB file in there to check the speed?

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I was fifty-fifty thinking to test it past logging in from the remote site to the DS FileStation and to download some big file. @Dexxer is saying that information technology's almost 2Mb/south which is totally unrealistic for a 1Gb fiber.

Reach to File station via a web browser? and drag and drib a big file inside?

Rusty

And and so try to drag and drop a 10GB file in at that place to cheque the speed?

Correct

jeyare

just to be sure:
1. Sagemcom Fast 5566 is pure xDSL modem/router
2. known also as Bong HH3300

Q:
are you sure that you have 1Gbps over xDSL it'southward physically doesn't exist include parallel bonding of your coper line by ISP.
Q2:
or do you have FTTH ONU GPON converted to RJ45 and connected into WAN slot?

Dexxer

simply to be sure:
1. Sagemcom Fast 5566 is pure xDSL modem/router
2. known also as Bong HH3300

Q:
are you sure that yous have 1Gbps over xDSL it's physically doesn't exist include parallel bonding of your coper line by Internet access provider.
Q2:
or do you have FTTH ONU GPON converted to RJ45 and continued into WAN slot?

I have FFTH, cobweb is coming out the wall and is continued straight into the router hh3000 via SFP connector I think the back. No RJ45 into the WAN slot. WAN slot is empty.

Here'due south my ISP speed issue'south:

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PC1 is connected on LAN1 port and my NAS on LAN2

Hither's my iperf3 issue for within network.

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So I know my internal network communication is expert.

Now I'k wondering if I tin can run iperf on my colleague'due south reckoner at his home, and connect to the NAS to cheque the connectedness.

Dexxer

Cant connect via SFTP... every time i endeavor information technology tells me the connexion is refused. I went to my friend's habitation, tried to connect using WinSCP, Fillezilla and CyberDuck, all cant connect :-(

In DSM i activated SFTP via port 22. On my router I made certain port 22 is open up and forwarded to my NAS. Still can't connect using FTP via net.

WST16

Run speed exam (get speedtest. net) locally and ask him to run it at his end too. Take note of the results.

Give the login credentials to your colleague. Just permit him/her login like you exercise locally (but using DDNS of course), launch FileStation, find ane of your video files, correct-click on it and choose download and observe what'due south reported by the browser's download info.

Dexxer

Run speed test (go speedtest. net) locally and ask him to run it at his end besides. Have note of the results.

Give the login credentials to your colleague. Just let him/her login similar you exercise locally (merely using DDNS of course), launch FileStation, find one of your video files, right-click on it and cull download and observe what'due south reported by the browser's download info.

This method gave me 25 to 35mb/s filestation via web browser ddns, not bad. Way improve than the 2mb/s from Synology drive client... That is foreign.

Besides bulldoze customer keeps on disconnecting and maxim aberrant status.

WST16

That's good. That'due south inside the range for i GB fiber broadband (I expected it to exist in the upper 20s). And to be articulate, this is MB/southward non Mb/s.

Now we know that you'll need to focus on Bulldoze, since nosotros've proved that the links are doing what they're supposed to do (transport at the advertised speed).

Unfortunately, I'm not using it to sync such amounts. I just employ it daily to edit my files (spreadsheets and documents).

Nonetheless, I'd become back and say, try a single big file in the synced folders. Just one, and see. I keep reading that Drive becomes very deadening when at that place are a lot of files to sync (peculiarly modest files). Not sure if this happens initially until everything is synced and it takes off later or is it going to exist like this.
You'll need to experiment and exam. Increment the number of files and see what happens when everything is synced and you edit a single file, is it going to sync faster.

If all fails, and if this is of import for your operation, I'd ditch information technology and look for a more solid alternative (some I've mentioned earlier).

Likewise drive client keeps on disconnecting and maxim abnormal status.

Try addressing this outset. Cheque all the settings. If necessary uninstall and reinstall.
(what a stupid proper noun they choose, trying to search for Drive, almost always, brings hard disk drive results).

WST16

Check this, see if you lot've overlooked something:

jeyare

back to the WAN findings:
1.
then y'all have ONU GPON (FFTH) managed by actually underperforming xDSL router
two. this router tin't support two line bonding for VDSL, then must be actually weak in bundle operation.
three. WAN speed. There is only one way how to check the existent WAN speed between computers and your NAS = you have to run iPerf container, as was recommended

Regarding the exam of speed (iperf):
- never use free servers as iperf target. It's same as measure your internet speed by Ookla (or similar tests) to different Internet access provider gateways = you volition get a measurement, but out of reality.
- you have to set cake / packets (k) parameter
- y'all have to employ (F) file parameter also ...information technology's better than really minor sized random file.There is as well option to employ ane of your exchanged large files.

Your Speed exam verdict:
- 919/695Mbps this test (screenshot provided from the router GUI) is the speed from your router to your ISP gateway = clean and single hopped transmission. Defined past your Internet service provider.
- 25 to 35 mbps (as was written its x8 bigger in existent = 200 to 280 Mbps) is just 20% of the download speed. Then there is two points of view:
a) your real download speed was in this time really aggregated
b) upload speed of the source (your colleague) is the limited point

Your colleague:
- follow your block scheme he has same router as you
- seems to be same FFTH medium connected into WAN
- seems to exist same Internet access provider between you and him
- when same urban center, and then in that location is a 99% probability of same Gateway = so only one hop between your router and his router = what is actually clean.
Please ostend these assumptions.

When is my consideration correct - yous and your colleague have one and but limitation = Bell HH3000.

jeyare

small addition to my consideration:
- upload speed in FFTx is oftentimes performing nearly by nominal speed = speed of the information product (in same WAN network). Then your colleague upload speed nearly 200Mbps is really weak merely when he has same information product as yous (NAS location).
- then there is another factor to the consideration almost used routers performance

At that place is no style to find the router specifications regarding network performance nearly disquisitional points. What is (maybe merely) for me unclear and unacceptable.

Final - router controlled past ISP is really big weakness in data security.

dzunk

I found this thread looking for answers with extremely tedious Synology Bulldoze operation.
I changed computers in Oct-2020, and since so, I have yet to exist able to sync my large fill-in via bulldoze.
I have a 10G network internally, and information technology operates at 10G speeds via iSCSI, but at 50MB/sec just via elevate and drop, and Synology Drive performance is terrible. All the same trouble shooting with Synology support.
The Sync side of Synology Drive seems to be more than responsive that the backup.
Synology Drive sync picks upward new files extremely fast, merely if I change the name or update the file, Synology Drive takes awhile to go back to the files to update. This may be due to the big corporeality of resyncing with my fill-in that is ongoing.
My point is, Synology Drive does not seem to be functioning very well right at present. I am non certain if this has e'er been an issue or a alter since the latest DSM updates. It seems to simply sync 500 files/sec at a time without any file transfer. I am using a DS1817+ and DS1621+.
While the Bong HH3000 may be a bottleneck, I recommend looking at another sync solution.
Have you tried the File asking from FileStation?
See if y'all get ameliorate results by creating a download link to your colleague for initial file transfer, and then send a files asking for your colleague to add new files.
This is how I work with clients and outsourced editing.
This means your colleague will non be working directly on your DS1621+ just downloading and uploading data.

jeyare

The Sync side of Synology Drive seems to be more responsive that the backup.
Synology Drive sync picks up new files extremely fast, but if I change the proper noun or update the file, Synology Drive takes awhile to go back to the files to update. This may be due to the large amount of resyncing with my fill-in that is ongoing.
My point is, Synology Drive does not seem to be operation very well correct now. I am non sure if this has e'er been an effect or a change since the latest DSM updates. It seems to but sync 500 files/sec at a time without any file transfer. I am using a DS1817+ and DS1621+.

Q: but to be sure (lost in the described issue) - in case of the "backup" - are you thinking about Drive Backup? From Win OS surroundings? Synced by Drive to the NAS over LAN?
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I accept a 10G network internally, and it operates at 10G speeds via iSCSI, simply at 50MB/sec only via drag and drop, and Synology Bulldoze performance is terrible.

Q: about iSCSI - y'all must mean LAN 10G performance. What is a standard sample of synced bunch of files for the Syno Drive? Both exactly aforementioned samples tested in iSCSI LUN and Drive also?

to be certain: iSCSI uses different transfer protocol than Drive (iSCSI is one of fastest in your NAS architecture)
for the LAN usage second fastest is NFS
and so last is SMB (insufficient setup on both sides is frequently a reason of terrible performance)

for heavy (large capacity) file transfer is ameliorate utilize different channel than Drive (equally was described above)... e.g. direct transfer by NFS (simply y'all need W Enterprise version). Simply don't use SMB and NFS for transfers to aforementioned Share target, it'southward a disaster. For unlike than Enterprise version y'all have to use third party Win NFS clients.

I have likewise plan to test this style:

How To Upload To Synology Faster

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